Rockfishing 101

Discussion in 'Fishing Tips' started by SeaDawg, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. Eye Problem

    Eye Problem If 1st you dont succeed, failure may be your style

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    Soon I hope, been way too busy at work after getting back from guadalupe. Seems like we have as many laughs as fish on those rockfish runs.
     
  2. AnglerboiRR

    AnglerboiRR Newbie

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    i was wondering if anyone has tried to dropper loop rapalas for big reds?
     
  3. SeaDawg

    SeaDawg Grouper Hunter

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  4. @-EZ

    @-EZ Fail, try again.

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    Nothing shameless about it... Great thread.
     
  5. Raginkjn

    Raginkjn Member

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    Definetely some good reading. Can't wait to get me some of those jigs !
     
  6. SeaDawg

    SeaDawg Grouper Hunter

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    I just sold a guy a dozen jigs, so I showed him where to find these tutorials and bumped the jig ones up :)
     
  7. nacho66

    nacho66 Newbie

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    Thanks for the Jigs Harry Good luck this Down South..
    Nacho
     
  8. Skip Jackson

    Skip Jackson Recovering LandLubber

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    I love Harry's attitude.....we don't need no stinking BAIT! Nothing shameless, just time proven skills.

    Torpedoes away! ;)
     
  9. Skip Jackson

    Skip Jackson Recovering LandLubber

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    Dropper loop & some ugly ass shrimp flies..............
     
  10. lancaster

    lancaster Newbie

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    REALLY GOOD STUFF.THANKS FOR THAT.
     
  11. phanatic!

    phanatic! Newbie

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    beautiful write up. I learned a lot just from reading this. Thank you again!
     
  12. Papa "J"

    Papa "J" I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Just FYI I have Ed's Jigs on the truck and in Miramar 5 days a week. $70 per dozen with plastic case.

    Had 12 dozen only have 6 dozen left. Come get um!!!!!!
     
  13. GrabBass1

    GrabBass1 GrabBass1

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    I would share like that IF I actually knew anything! :worship: Thanks for the great info. Question, can you see halibut on a sounder?
     
  14. Hard Head

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    Great info. Thanks very much for that.
     
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    Great tutorial for the weekend warrior to experiment with some proven skills.
     
  16. BIGHEAVY777

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    AWESOME HARRY. NICE PIC'S. THANK'S FOR THE INFO.
     
  17. Deepblue22

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    SeaDawg,
    When your searching the fish with the sonar how fast are you generally cruising in the boat to still see reliable results at 300'? What kind of sounder and transducer are you running, and are you on 50 or 200hz. Appreciate the writeup great info.
    Cheers.
     
  18. Bigeasy

    Bigeasy yeah, yeah!

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    Excellent tutorial! Do you use a sea anchor when it's windy?
     
  19. SeaDawg

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    :rofl: Wow, I wrote this a lifetime ago............I know when I was looking for fish I was going fairly slow...............more than an idle, but certainly not on plane :) I had a 600L (I think), so on my way out I would just watch the structure, then slow down to find fish on structure...........I seriously don't remember if I was on 50 or 200hz - sorry............

    No. I would give up and go home if it was windy, sea anchor or not, fishing in 300 feet and trying to drop on fish is mission impossible in windy conditions. IMHO :)

    Damn, I wanna go drop on some Reds!!! I may have to settle for some grouper out of Port Canaveral :)

    PS - Jigs don't float!
     
  20. johndtuttle

    johndtuttle Angler/Client

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    Ok, at the risk of completely losing my cred as a hardcore tuna killing machine (LOL) I will add something from the Northlands to this post.

    We have big Rock Fish here on the Big Sur coast when seas permit getting out for them and running far to the remote reefs south of Point Sur. It's a guaranteed ass whipping if the wind comes up at all when you are 30 miles straight down hill from home so these remote reefs are still loaded with reds to 8-10lbs and big lings as they get visited by few private boaters.

    Anyways, a very useful technique when you are fishing 250-300 feet of water and the current is ripping is to keep it simple. A simple rig of 2 Glow Hoochies on dropper loops tipped with squid strips above 16oz of lead below gets them down there quick and leads to instant bites. The boat bobbing provides all the action needed. Use J-hooks if you like swinging, if you want a no-brainer and guaranteed 2 fish every drop use big circles (like 9/0) and let them hook themselves. Yes, really truly do nothing and once they are on they rarely come off. At most do a very slow wind in and you may pick up one of the schooling mid column Olives or Blues on the way up that are tasty too. It will also spare you the frustration of another 8lb Canary right off the bottom that you have to throw back and watch the Seagulls peck at (prohibited species).

    When the first fish latches on the circle hook will keep him buttoned so there is no stress and his commotion will temp one of his buddies to latch on to the other hoochie that is now irresistible. This is also an outstanding rig for beginners as they won't miss bites this way and will train them in the Zen of circle hooks. Newbie girls fishing this way commonly out fish "pros" trying all the new-fangled stuff in both size and quantity it really is that easy (ask me how I know :)).

    Something that you can set on the rail and winch 'em in with is now useful now that you have 15lbs of fat Fish Tacos on the line...

    All the usual lead jigs (butterfly, traditional or other) work too but generally have more cross section than straight lead torpedo weights and don't get as deep as quick. Just a consideration when fishing deep with a lot of current and you want to get your limits before the wind comes. Rockfish are cold water fish that do not require aggressive presentations to bite. Seriously, keep it simple and you will lose less expensive tackle and boat plenty of fish.

    A good ling rig is to put the biggest swim bait you can find on the biggest lead head you can find (12-16oz) with one glow hoochie above in a teaser rig. Lings seem to like slow moving baits with a nice wiggle and swim baits work great. Fish J's on both rigs here as you have to swing anyways when a ling hits the swim bait. Be ready right after hitting bottom and coming up a turn or two.

    best
     
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