San Francisco Bay calico bass

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  1. tunanorth

    tunanorth I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    calico bass.JPG Just got off the phone with Captain James Smith of the party boat California Dawn. In the last few days, at least 2 calico bass have been caught in shiner perch traps near Oakland. The furthest north I recall calicos being caught is Santa Cruz/Monterey, and Smith also said several spiny lobster have been caught in crab traps this winter. Both species are definitely way outside of their normal ranges.
     
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    Could it be? A product of El Niño?
     
  3. JFK

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    There were triggerfish and pompano caught here is santa cruz this past summer and there are still some schools of bonito cruising around that never left.....weird stuff is happening for sure.

    Some WSB have been caught in SF bay too....mostly out of OP by guys bouncing for hali's.
     
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    It may be fry being swept via currents and establishing tiny little populations where conditions permit

    Scott
     
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    Water temps in Monterey are several degrees higher than normal, and presumably for the whole central coast. We're usually down around 53F in the winter, and it has been up near 57-58. No doubt that has moved the "normal" food chain further north than usual. But I've never heard of Calicos in a estuary-type environment. The water off of Oakland is more like upper San Diego harbor than the kelp forests off Pt Loma or Catalina. I thought calico's liked cleaner water than that.
     
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    There sure is calicos in monterey I got two monsters about two years ago in monterey. At first I didint know what they were but then it Hit me when I saw the spots!! Hard to believe they have made to sfbay but if they did that would be insane. The one that is hardest to believe is the spiny lobster!!! But crazy things have been happening up here so I wouldent be surprised of someone getting into some yellow tail up in Monterey!!! Here is a pic of my Monterey bay calicos they were pigs

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    The MPA's are working :D
     
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    The triggerfish at Santa Cruz was pretty wild, but I never got to see pics of the "pompano", so until then, I am 95-percent sure the pompano were either mis-identified pomfets if caught offshore, or mis-identified butterfish if caught inshore.
    I created a WSB prize last year for our California Dawn trips and everyone laughed, but they are not laughing now!
     
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    Back in the late 90's El Nino when I used to live up there I young kid caught a 15lb yellow while we were fishing Albies on the Kahuna out of Monterey, I would bet you anything that more than a few will be caught this year and even further North, enjoy it while you can.
     
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    Ha-Ha, there were a fair number of yellowtail and bluefin tuna caught in Oregon and Washington last year mixed in with the albacore, its looking pretty likely that will happen again.
    A little more fun speculation for SoCal anglers in 2015 might be sierra mackerel and roosterfish in the surf, just like the East Cape!
    Although a sierra was caught in CA as recently as 2010, an actual catch of a roosterfish in CA has never happened. The so-called catch of a rooster listed in some books is based on a "visual" only, in the surf off San Clemente in 1959.
     
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    Yea Fish and game have told me they have seen a few yellows from boats targeting albies. But Last year the albies never showed up so hopefully now that this el nino is showing its effects more we can see some albie action.

    A lot of the norcal salmon fisherman are worried about all the warm water in monterey. unlike the pelagics the salmon don't like the warm water. So many people think we will be fishing a lot deeper or a lot further north. We shall see april 4th when people start finding fish.
     
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    I think you're right.

    http://capitolaboatandbait.com/wpg2-2?g2_itemId=160463
     
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    Winner!
     
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    You can have the calicos of we can keep the Wahoo!
     
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    I'm praying for GORILLA BIGEYE TUNA In SoCal.
     
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    We caught a couple up tight to Alijos Rocks a couple years ago fishing for Cabrilla. Seams like they range farther than you think.
     
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    I'm pretty sure I caught a Sierra fishing in the San Gabriel River channel back in the 60's. Sure as hell cant prove it but my brother and I caught a couple, I think.
     
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    Co-worker of a friend of mine who's a hardcore kayak diver caught a sheephead out of monterey last weekend. He stated that he see's lots more calicos and sheephead, states there will be areas with lots of sheepshead and areas with none. They are also diving in under 50ft. of water. I caught a barracuda trolling for salmon in the monterey bay about 10yrs ago. Definitely looking like an el nino yr.

    Ronnie D (kaylena)
     
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    So it was a spiny lobster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow!
     

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